Comments on Tory Bear - right-wing political gossip: UPDATED (again): They Don't Half Pick 'Em

Anonymous Anonymous said... The more I see a...

2009-11-24T21:46:20.223Z

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The more I see and hear of this young lady, the more she reminds me of every angry, bullied at school, cliched, clueless left wing student I've ever met; sort of Rik from the Young Ones minus the humour.

... and the charm.

[...]Tory Bear has been getting a bit of stick from Labourites over his condemnation of an anti-Thatcher tweet from vapid, fawning, Labour lickspittle, BevaniteEllie.[...]

There is an alarming trend emerging here. First ...

2009-11-24T19:35:12.235Z

There is an alarming trend emerging here.

First there was Mrs Bercow and now this Ellie chick.

All Labour birds are supposed to be mingers. WTF is going on? They must be closet Tories!

I'm surprised that Gorgon has got enough time ...

2009-11-24T18:38:52.276Z

I'm surprised that Gorgon has got enough time for skateboarding, with all that jogging he does.

TB She RT'd it. She publicised it. Just like y...

2009-11-24T17:43:42.243Z

TB
She RT'd it. She publicised it. Just like you did in fact. She did not actually say she approved of it did she? And did she really say she wanted Thatch to die a violent death or was that you extrapolating a bit? Oh and the hypocrisy charge cuts both ways unless you are prepared to condemn Declan Lyon's comments about Gordon Brown's effigy and demand that he be expelled from your party.

Perhaps for the good of mankind, the blogosphere a...

2009-11-24T16:31:35.470Z

Perhaps for the good of mankind, the blogosphere and politics in general we should just lock TB and Bev-El in a room together and have done with it!

It must be awful being TB or one of the above outr...

2009-11-24T14:28:34.043Z

It must be awful being TB or one of the above outraged commenters.

If you are honestly this offended by a joke of this nature, you must truly live very sad lives. It isn't gutter politics; nobody smeared Thatcher, nobody actually suggested that they wanted her to die, it isn't even any where near the line, let alone crossing it. A skateboard at the top of the stairs is a slapstick image, nothign more and you know that it isn't.

When the Tory youth of the 80s wore t-shirts saying 'hang Nelson Mandela,' that my friends was offensive. Ellie would have been amongst those calling for him to be freed.

The concept of morality is so far divorced from the Conservative movement, it is rather pathetic to see you shouting about it now in defence of old Maggie the tyrant, who had a lovely brew with Pinochet.

It does showcase the attitude rather well. Compare...

2009-11-24T12:47:55.922Z

It does showcase the attitude rather well. Compare this against the time when stories about the rumours over Gordon Brown's eyesight emerged earlier this year. Those of us in the Tory camp showed great sympathy for Gordon Brown if it turned out the stories were true. Thankfully they were not. Nobody in leading positions in the Tory party or greater movement wrote about their wishes for him to go blind or suffer in any way.

TB, forget 'em. They're the forlorn hope ...

2009-11-24T12:28:13.313Z

TB, forget 'em.

They're the forlorn hope of a party in its terminal decline. Labour has been bypassed by history, and no amount of campaign money siphoned off from quangos, celebrity endorsements and smears can change that. Labour will go the way of the dodo, whatever they do. And it *hurts*, hurts like a bitch, for people who have never learned a trade, never did anything or had any prospects for a career other than be picked up by the Red Party Machine and end up in sinecure 'political consultant' jobs, then become MPs in safe Labour boroughs. It hurts the likes of Ellie that they're not going to get the comfy jobs from Labour-proximate quangos they have dreamed of, and would have to dust that not-very-good degree from a not-very-good university off and, shock horror, look for a real job.

So they try.

And try again.

And the more desperately they try, the deeper they work themselves into that violent, aggressive, inhumane mindset that is at the back of every leftist's mind, carefully concealed by polite language and a pseudo-intellectual facade.

Sometimes what these people really are pops out. This is what they really are.

@Ian - TB and Ellie being married?? think you...

2009-11-24T12:15:32.929Z

@Ian - TB and Ellie being married??

think you'll get poor odds, they say that when two people hate each other, it is masking a love that will never go out!

Ellie with a blue bear? Ahh.

Where can I place a bet on TB and Ellie being marr...

2009-11-24T12:00:08.570Z

Where can I place a bet on TB and Ellie being married before the election? Surely get good odds now!

TB, for a Tory you're alright! But you need to...

2009-11-24T11:37:34.831Z

TB, for a Tory you're alright! But you need to take a step back, far worse stuff is said about Gordon and DC every day. I don't think anyone would seriously wish Mrs Thatcher ill, and if they do, they should have no place in the Labour party, let alone in an official capacity.

"If you can't take a taste of your own...

2009-11-24T10:48:22.560Z
"If you can't take a taste of your own medicine..."

So what you're saying is that this is revenge. Are you merely feigning outrage, then? Just wishing to clarify.

Don't people realise that tarring anyone who d...

2009-11-24T10:38:38.251Z
Don't people realise that tarring anyone who dares criticise a woman as "sexist" ends up completely undermining their feminist cause?

sexist?! How/where?

2009-11-24T10:19:50.763Z
sexist?! How/where?

Where is Harriet Harman?

2009-11-24T10:10:27.678Z
Where is Harriet Harman?

I think she is quite cute

2009-11-24T09:16:46.809Z
I think she is quite cute

I thought it was quite funny

2009-11-24T08:11:57.827Z
I thought it was quite funny

Once again the old Twitter argument. Is it public...

2009-11-24T07:27:54.130Z
Once again the old Twitter argument. Is it public announcement? It is private conversation? More will fall foul of it.

I believe in free speech. Free speech means that you have the right to say things that make you sound like a rude, mean-spirited, evil little witch.

So I wont jump on the bandwagon and demand this and that and the other.

She clearly didn't have the advantage of a decent upbringing by decent parents who taught her how to behave politely.

Speaking of twatter, I've noticed that the mor...

2009-11-24T04:58:35.521Z
Speaking of twatter, I've noticed that the more visceral stuff comes from local councillors. Don't they have time and money to spend organising diversity festivals rather than trolling the internet?

As for Ellie the Elephant's moronic comments, it didn't surprise and as a result didn't offend me (stuff like that is de rigueur for any lefty activist) but if kicking her out puts the Bevanites and the Fabians on the backfoot in the forthcoming Labour leadership contest, then that is fine by me.

I'm known for my occasional remarks that we sh...

2009-11-24T01:51:49.305Z
I'm known for my occasional remarks that we should steal Anne Begg's wheelchair (Labour MP for Aberdeen South)... that way we might win the seat! Sadly, a seat in which we come either 3rd or 4th behind the ghastly SNP.

Yet, I wouldn't say it in public. Well, not seriously anyway.

A joke is acceptable. I think this was exactly that. However, as a senior party representative I do think that Miss Gellard ought to choose her words more wisely. Or perhaps she should seek more private methods of communication for such jokes to be shared?

A brief apology given her status may be necessary, but fear on this occasion TB might be going a bit Daily Mail on us...

I have tried on many occasions via twitter to ask ...

2009-11-24T00:16:49.559Z
I have tried on many occasions via twitter to ask @BevaniteEllie to comment on various things, never once had a reply and eventually found she had blocked me, she like most of the PLP are not capable of ocnducting a discussion, you either agree with them or you are not recognised and are totally ignored, they are totaly out of their depth in their understanding of the man in the street who would like answers to various questions. And still they expect us too vote for them, fat chance.

I was about to donate a million pound to the Labou...

2009-11-24T00:01:07.852Z
I was about to donate a million pound to the Labour Party and do 50 adverts on the run up to the election ....but after reading this I want it so people are forced to vot anything but Labour...it is disgraceful, disgusting.

GOD HELP US... HAS POLITICS TUNEDINTO A TIT FOR TAT CONDEMNATIONS IN THE GUTTER WHERE PEOPLE FLOOD BOARDS WITH BOLLOX ABOUT HOW THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR SOMEONE BUT NOW THEY ARE NOT.

I think it's pretty disgusting, to be honest. ...

2009-11-23T23:46:50.067Z
I think it's pretty disgusting, to be honest. A week after every leftie in the country kicked off over the Sun's supposed bullying of Brown, they're happy to RT and condone those kind of sentiments. Hypocrites.

She's a nothing in the labour party, but it...

2009-11-23T23:26:43.463Z
She's a nothing in the labour party, but it's still out of order. If this was a tory saying something about a Labour pm I'd expect them to be expelled, and I hope the same happens to that brute ellie.