tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post8338088294541950751..comments2010-05-20T09:17:42.729+01:00Harry Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05099597763862011749noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-61924928363495599772010-05-19T17:30:23.503+01:002010-05-19T17:30:23.503+01:00The swinger comment be true. It is Adele Douglas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-56781746013790714662010-04-15T09:42:17.370+01:002010-04-15T09:42:17.370+01:00&quot;Sticking to what she believes in&quot;?!?!?!? In defecting from the Tories to Labour she has clearly demonstrated that she doesn&#39;t believe in anything!!!Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15252054403352395221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-7968909636598798422010-04-14T15:54:56.522+01:002010-04-14T15:54:56.522+01:00&quot;As a bisexual female with a boyfriend I have not personally been the victim of homophobia in the Conservative Party but I have met a lot of people who feel Christianity and it&#39;s ideology/ rules should be incorporated in the way the country is run.&quot;<br /><br />What a ridiculous comment. Being a Christian is not one step away from being a homophobe. If someone said that being a Muslim is one step away from being a suicide bomber you&#39;d be branded a racist.<br /><br />Stupid generalisations about Christians are no better than stupid generalisations about gay people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-86395602342725552822010-04-10T21:09:06.801+01:002010-04-10T21:09:06.801+01:00.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-90027139105007627962010-04-10T20:59:54.521+01:002010-04-10T20:59:54.521+01:00As a friend of Anastasia I would like to express my disgust at the way you are all responding to the situation. As far as I am concerned those of you who want to call anyone backstabbing and conniving why dint you read other coment threads from this very website and see who has suddenly changed their mind about her. As a bisexual female with a boyfriend I have not personally been the victim of homophobia in the Conservative Party but I have met a lot of people who feel Christianity and it&#39;s ideology/ rules should be incorporated in the way the country is run.<br /><br />But... I do not personally beleive that my sexuality has any relevance to my opinion on who I think should run the company. As heterosexuality does not provide one with a knowledge of economics, or any other subject for that matter.<br /><br />However I commend Anastasia for sticking to what she beleives in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-49055070599908754292010-04-10T02:15:21.301+01:002010-04-10T02:15:21.301+01:00It kind of feels like the point at hand has been missed; what if it had been said that it&#39;s acceptable for Muslim B&amp;B owners to turn away Christians, or for Christians to turn away Hindus.......Instead of slamming the person who took a stand against something she felt unjust, maybe what the said injustice is should gain the focus. All I hear described is unfounded insults towards a bold young woman standing up for a cause. She left the Tories over a year ago due to the constant lies and exaggerations of her behaviour, due to discrimination because of her class, her Scottish roots, and her sexual orientation. And FYI, if you read what she said correctly, you&#39;ll see she merely suggested she might vote labour, no that she&#39;s definitely intending to do so. And anyway, most politicians are in it for themselves and stoop to some dubious tactics. <br />Stop attacking Anastasia B-B, grow up, and tackle the real issue.Helennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-64999133782957701302010-04-10T00:53:36.780+01:002010-04-10T00:53:36.780+01:00You mean there are non-careerist Tories? Wow, that&#39;s fascinating! Show me one! @_@<br /><br />Yup, its a corker alright, that the Tory party&#39;s not homophobic. I certainly lol&#39;d, anyway.Kaze no Kaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07140378755157499904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-51813603087646282402010-04-09T20:57:26.986+01:002010-04-09T20:57:26.986+01:00@Anonymous:<br /><br />&quot;And the award for social engineer of the year goes to...&quot;<br /><br />Social engineering?? Straight people are told, 24/7, from the moment they&#39;re born to the moment they die, that they are the norm. Is that social engineering? Gay kids shouldn&#39;t have to wait til age 15 at school to be told it&#39;s ok to be gay, but if parents aren&#39;t doing their job, we have to step in.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06439891317843689928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-69215513044626097012010-04-09T17:42:06.423+01:002010-04-09T17:42:06.423+01:00NO TOLERANCE FOR THE INTOLERANT<br /><br /><br />Ahh Marcuse is resting happy, knowing that his work on &quot;Liberating Tolerance&quot; found fertile ground in the boomer generation.<br /><br />https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8630135369495797236#John Doenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-69071160278138502062010-04-09T12:44:10.330+01:002010-04-09T12:44:10.330+01:00LGBTory - what would those changes be, vis-a-vis gay stuff? It&#39;s all very well saying gay people are just as interested in the economy etc, but presumably you believe in some changes with regard to gay issues too. I think your website&#39;s being re-done, couldn&#39;t find anything on there, so would be interested to hear.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06439891317843689928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-6929980835465233322010-04-09T09:52:15.306+01:002010-04-09T09:52:15.306+01:00With out ABB this blog would not be the blog it is today so thanks ABB for being a greasy poll climbing, lying, opportunist, tow faced girl you are.ToryBanterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17432714981735970959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-37796902679000871602010-04-09T09:24:21.144+01:002010-04-09T09:24:21.144+01:00Anastasia Beaumont Bott went as quickly as she appeared both in Conservative politics and LGBT activism. Sadly, she left the Conservative LGBT organisation weaker rather than stronger having done nothing of note to advance the LGBT agenda, either within or outside the Conservative Party. <br /> <br />I think it&#39;s a great shame that many years after the event she has decided to raise allegations, if only she&#39;d raised them at the time they could have been investigated and action taken. There is no tolerance of homophobia in the modern Conservative Party and I know that more great strides forward have been made since her time. <br /> <br />LGBTory became the group it now is from July 2009 when a strong and dedicated group of individuals came together from different parts of the country to pursue the aim of creating a successful Conservative LGBT group - for Conservatives and for the LGBT community. LGBTory now has hundreds of supporters and numerous branches up and down the country and is working with more than two dozen LGBT Prospective Conservative MPs to bring about the change this country so desperately needs.LGBToryhttps://www.twitter.com/lgbtoryuknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-79779462544276707802010-04-09T08:37:08.634+01:002010-04-09T08:37:08.634+01:00In my experience CF has been far from homophobic. Indeed when I was helping run a branch many years ago 4 out of 5 of the committee were openly gay and never faced any discrimination. I don&#39;t know Stacy Bott so cannot verify the claims made against her, however one thing for certain is she clearly thinks her comments will have some influence &#39;I don&#39;t like to do this to David Cameron...&#39; I would hate to burst her bubble but I think her comments will have minimal to zero input on the election.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-15194349079791916252010-04-08T23:41:13.550+01:002010-04-08T23:41:13.550+01:00I heard the rumours and I think I was once introduced to her at a party conference reception when I was very &#39;tired and emotional&#39; as our dear politicians put it. <br /><br />Good riddance I say, sounds like a ghastly person who has no place in the Conservative Party. Sadly to say there are a lot of her type, those who wish to twist and turn stories to suit their own political objectives even if it involves the smearing of people who thought they were friends with.Tory Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-58202233840699067522010-04-08T22:44:53.910+01:002010-04-08T22:44:53.910+01:00Oh for god&#39;s sake since when do all gay people vote for the same party anyway... silly cow.S]noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-32616793696145638212010-04-08T21:54:17.892+01:002010-04-08T21:54:17.892+01:00Actually came by this blog via Telegraph News Blogs. Having seen that you don&#39;t print comments even when they adhere to your rules (no racism, libellous statements or gayphobia), I won&#39;t be back.<br /><br />Intellectual lightweights the lot of ya.John Doenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-45736614167195333032010-04-08T21:45:54.101+01:002010-04-08T21:45:54.101+01:00Meanwhile in the real world, people up and down the country are saying &#39;wow did you hear Anastasia went to Labour from the Tories because Labour are more gay-friendly?&#39; Like hell they are. I have never heard of her and I like politics so your average voter will care even less. As for this crap about &#39;Tories have lost the gay vote&#39;, again outside of the BBC, Westminster, other parts of London, Stonewall and Tatchell&#39;s head, it is not at the forefront of the reason why people will vote whichever way they do. Believe me they care more about jobs/crime/economy.thespecialonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06514789597629728269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-55383719854757307502010-04-08T21:38:34.593+01:002010-04-08T21:38:34.593+01:00Bott is on the BBC payroll is she not? Cui bono?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-41368238028224738002010-04-08T20:58:30.481+01:002010-04-08T20:58:30.481+01:00The sensible among us had her down as a wrong &#39;un on day one.<br /><br />Pity nobody sensible is ever employed at the CCHQ end of CF. Mannon, Loader, Pughtin, Lunn - where will it end?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-76762768144231562322010-04-08T19:44:24.361+01:002010-04-08T19:44:24.361+01:00&quot;...but only because minorities make a fuss and start to stand up for themselves.&quot;<br /><br />I wonder if this individual has read Eros and Civilisation.<br /><br />In fact, I wonder if any of the Young Tory Blogosphere has the wit to understand the philosophy behind it.<br /><br />Unlikely.John Doe (Telegraph Blogger)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-87124998963438915842010-04-08T19:42:16.972+01:002010-04-08T19:42:16.972+01:00&quot;...for the first time that all young people would&#39;ve been <b>told</b> that gay relationships are acceptable...&quot;<br /><br />And the award for social engineer of the year goes to...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-26749210681690202452010-04-08T19:01:24.633+01:002010-04-08T19:01:24.633+01:00If you&#39;re going to have a go at someone who isnt to do with this as in Adele, at least have the bottle to put your name instead of hiding and being anonymous.Matt Dhttps://www.kentishtory.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-17747894947879957362010-04-08T18:27:20.231+01:002010-04-08T18:27:20.231+01:00Well put DavidAlexandranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-31052311909249257582010-04-08T18:13:03.873+01:002010-04-08T18:13:03.873+01:00David, I highly doubt that we would&#39;ve seen the huge advances we&#39;ve seen over the last 15 years *without* the work of groups like Stonewall. Agreed, things tend to happen when influential majority groups come on board, but only because minorities make a fuss and start to stand up for themselves. <br /><br /><br />&quot;There&#39;s no good reason to accept at face value that the Conservatives are somehow less friendly towards homosexuals than either of the parties you mention&quot; - well, apart from their totally divergent voting records, that is, and the actions of the Tories when they were in government, and David Cameron&#39;s bizzare belief that Blair was hell-bent on promoting gayness in schools. No, nothing at all. <br /><br />Of course, gay Tories may be voting on other issues, but in doing so they harm their fellow gays, so they can&#39;t think much of them. For some reason, when it&#39;s about gay people voting for anti-gay things, we think it&#39;s acceptable, but we wouldn&#39;t expect black people to do the same, or even religious people, and that&#39;s merely an choice position. <br /><br />I don&#39;t understand your &#39;identity politics&#39; accusation - we&#39;re allowed to be happy being gay, and comfortable defending our rights, and saying that we have every right to have equality with straight people. Only people who are ashamed of their sexuality think differently - I know, because I&#39;ve been there, like many gay people. <br /><br />When you look at specific issues, like adoption, or the recent issue with PSHE, these are concrete issues that affect gay people in their lives - they are not frivolous things about &#39;identity&#39;. Sure, be gay and vote against them, that&#39;s fine - but don&#39;t come crying when you start to lose other rights too, or when we fail to tackle the pervasive belief among young people that being gay is inferior, leading to yet more teen suicides, depression etc. I don&#39;t think those are trivial things, and I don&#39;t think it&#39;s selfish to want to tackle them.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06439891317843689928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787283052819380346.post-24624678927013191842010-04-08T17:53:50.888+01:002010-04-08T17:53:50.888+01:00&quot;Gay people *should* think about their sexuality (and everything else) when they vote, because no one else is thinking about it for them!&quot;<br /><br /> What&#39;s that supposed to mean - do you honestly believe that the only people who care about the rights of minority groups are the people who belong to them, or are you just saying it for effect? Note, that answer to this question determines whether you&#39;re stupid or dishonest - in neither event should anyone listen to a word you have to say. <br /><br /> The rest of your comment was rubbish too, by the way. There&#39;s no good reason to accept at face value that the Conservatives are somehow less friendly towards homosexuals than either of the parties you mention, and even if there were, it still wouldn&#39;t mean homosexuals who voted for them were experiencing self-loathing, since they might very well be voting based on other issues.<br /><br /> When will you people learn? Identity politics is SO twentieth century, and the real reason why groups like Stonewall and people like Tatchell keep trying to slander the Conservatives is that we refuse to pander to their last-century thinking. We recognise that every one of us is an individual, whose sexuality is just one of an infinite number of non-exclusive characteristics that make us who we are. The time for putting it on a pedestal and tiptoeing around it has passed. Your time has passed.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10550518743770741600noreply@blogger.com