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g3543... London CF has some great social as well a...

2009-08-24T14:33:58.339+01:00

g3543... London CF has some great social as well as political events, and a very enthusiastic team behind it, so i'm surprised by your specific comments.

There is a problem in CF and that is one of communication. It is almost impossible to keep track of 18,000 members (especially when they are moving jobs, leaving Uni, changing email addresses, etc). So those members, to a certain extent, need to keep themselves tied in to the organisation and take some responsibility themselves.

Make sure you are on mailing lists/facebook groups/etc, or you won't get to hear about the stuff that is going on. It's a hard truth, but to be included and involved, you have to take the first steps..

London CF website has more info:
https://www.londonconservativefuture.com/

I notice Rock followers have given up trying to re...

2009-08-23T23:24:32.777+01:00

I notice Rock followers have given up trying to rebut the idea that the result of the election of March 2008 wasn't a massive mistake.

And I don't mean that Darryl failed to win.

In shock news, guys who everybody said would be sh...

2009-08-22T21:31:32.741+01:00

In shock news, guys who everybody said would be shit at this job are shit at this job.

"Paul Seery, do you "care deeply about t...

2009-08-22T12:27:38.609+01:00

"Paul Seery, do you "care deeply about the organisation" as much as you cared deeply about Liberal Youth during your years in the Liberal Democrats?" - Irving Davison

Yes. I care a lot about CF.

I agree with This Observer. Since leaving Universi...

2009-08-22T11:46:21.041+01:00

I agree with This Observer. Since leaving University last Summer I have been so disappointed with CF. At Uni the CF branch seemed active, a good place to meet like minded people and help the party, in short it was focuses. However,since coming home (to London) of all places there seem to be a derth of properly focused events. The only events that seem to be held are campaign days, and frankly I can and do these locally anyway. It begs the question what is the point of CF, sort of a campaign vessel. i find going along to other conservative things, such as the Bow Group, a far better use of my time and interest, helping me learn more about conservative things. The current CF exexcutive (nearly all of whom have now been "appointed") are a disgrace in letting CF become a mere tool of the party

Dear boys, you're grumbling over nothing. At l...

2009-08-22T02:23:26.131+01:00

Dear boys, you're grumbling over nothing. At least CF isn't making national headlines.

I can well remember the glory years of the 1980s for their illustrious forbears, who used to sing, to the tune of 'She'll be coming round the mountains':

"Singing Thatcher Reagan Botha Pinochet!
Singing Thatcher Reagan Botha Pinochet! (Pinochet!)
Singing Thatcher Reagan Botha,
Trotsky was a floater,
Thatcher Reagan Botha Pinochet!"

This recent stuff's chicken feed.

Paul Seery, do you "care deeply about the org...

2009-08-22T00:51:12.026+01:00

Paul Seery, do you "care deeply about the organisation" as much as you cared deeply about Liberal Youth during your years in the Liberal Democrats?

CF could do better than the current bunch.

"I don't think CF will ever turn around&q...

2009-08-22T00:29:52.602+01:00

"I don't think CF will ever turn around"

Oh yes it will turn around!

There is a small group within CF that care deeply about the orgsanisation, myself included.

Most people may disregard CF but it is an organisation that has produce some outstanding talent in terms of activists, councilliors and parliamentary candidates.

I believe in this organisation and will not see or have it made irrelevant. I do agree though SB that the political careerists, arseholes within CF need to be kept away from positions of authority.

They bring the organisation down!

"Most of those individuals are win at all cos...

2009-08-21T23:13:05.106+01:00

"Most of those individuals are win at all cost social inadequates who have come to personify the selfish careerism engrained in politics"

Yup that pretty much sums it up for me. Arrogance and selfishness abound in CF and that's why I never bothered to get involved so many of them are foul individuals. Instead I campaigned with the local association. I don't think CF will ever turn around and now only serves as an early warning system for potential tossers.

"No referring to the identity of TB." T...

2009-08-21T20:52:15.044+01:00

"No referring to the identity of TB."

TB is The Stig

John Moorcroft See, and there was me thinking that...

2009-08-21T20:51:30.132+01:00

John Moorcroft
See, and there was me thinking that I should start up a CF and call it Redwoods Army

I find the state of CF at the present moment in ti...

2009-08-21T16:50:09.763+01:00

I find the state of CF at the present moment in time thoroughly depressing.

Doubtless there are many people in the Conservative Party who believe it should be focused on far more important things then Conservative Future. Most of those individuals are win at all cost social inadequates who have come to personify the selfish careerism engrained in politics that the public at large totally despise.

The simple fact of the matter is that CF has been tragically reduced to being a second rate campaigning organisation. There is no politics or philosophy anymore. As a consequence, it really is no surprise that little things such as democracy have been suspended in the organisation; all in the name of the endless pursuit of power. For those wanting a good chuckle, a copy of the CF Constitution is available on request, although that bloody thing has never been worth the paper it is no longer printed on!

The Conservative Party, like all mainstream parties these days, does not understand youth politics, or the potential organisations like CF have. Winston Churchill and Lord Woolton would spin in their graves if they knew what a shambles the young conservative movement they cherished and nurtured so much has become. I hope somebody somewhere wakes up and realises just what CF should be and could be

Yeah, I did ask about CF, but was told I was free ...

2009-08-21T16:08:06.673+01:00

Yeah, I did ask about CF, but was told I was free to set it up

Well if it's anything like past occasions it w...

2009-08-21T14:05:35.463+01:00

Well if it's anything like past occasions it will be Michael Rock choosing his mates, then twisting the arms of a majority of the rest of the nme and then announcing it before a meeting has even taking place.

gollom?

Who is doing the choosing?

2009-08-21T13:36:39.421+01:00

Who is doing the choosing?